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mcdraw

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



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Uncia

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



The Koe segg not only has a high top speed but also handles better than any other Euorpean sportscar, nd has a very well-furnished interior. It is the LFA’s real competitor. And Natarade, if the Skyline is "better in every way", then name one. I’ll name ten:

it’s faster through a slalom

it’s faster to 60 mph

it brakes faster

its Nurburgring times are slightly quicker

it has a more luxurious interior and superior ride quality

it’s the more reliable of the two by far

it’s more fuel-efficient and more powerful

it has the record for most records broken

it costs less to maintain as well as to insure

it has a higher top speed


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BMWM6

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



Im not going to get into that
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Naterade22

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



R34 is still superior to 1998 Supra in every way.
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BMWM6

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



ok but I thought the Koe segg was for topspeed

anyway good you cleared it up and there are articles all over the place that says the LF-A is only for lease im not making this up


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Uncia

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



When I said Supra wannabes I was talking about the R33/34, which never matched the American-spec Supra on any racetrack. And it wasn’t a few seconds between the R35 and LFA - it was 16 seconds, and it was a production model on stock tires. No video of Lexus’ 7:13 run exists, but their is one of it doing about 7:20 with traffic, which is still faster than the ACR or Nissan by quite a ways. I forgot where it was exactly but I’ll post the link when I find it. But the GT-R doesn’t compete with the LFA anyway - the GT-R is a budget supercar for four, and the LFA is a Koe segg-killing, ultra-exclusive racecar that doesn’t tear itself apart after being launched a few times. Saying that the LFA (which you can purchase flat-out, by the way) is inferior because of its price is like saying you don’t like Ferraris because they’re too exclusive.
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BMWM6

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



oh and also I own a toyota

but its a Rav4 =( im just kidding its a fun suv and to say the truth I also have a nissan but it doesnt compete with rav4


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BMWM6

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



Me leaning to toyota in a lot of there products I have to say the GT-R is not a supra wannabe

First lets take out the fact about the LF-A , It can only be leased as naterade said, I love the price tag, and Uncia stop going around saying it holds the nurburgring record or has beat the GT-R, It hasnt been confirmed and the record lapping LF-A is not the retail version, Even if it was it is not worth over double tthe GT-R price tag for a few seconds.

How much praise has the GT-R got like honestly have you been on this planet the last year or so.

now I am not bashing toyota I love the supra I loved the Supra RZ 1997 I have driven them on more then one occasion and there amazing. I have never driven the GT-R of that time.

What I am trying to say is that this GT-R is 2009 it cant be a supra wannabe as a matter of fact what makes more sense is that the LF-A is a GT-R wannabe, an expensive GT-R wannabe

I just wanted to put my 2 cents in and naterrades resolution makes sense


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Uncia

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



I’m speaking in terms of stock Supras and stock Skylines, by the way. I am against aftermarket parts entirely.
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Uncia

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



You referenced a 1999 Supra... if we are speaking in terms of Skylines and Japan-spec Supras, then I’d take the Skyline anyday. American Supras are a different deal, however. The fastest Supra by quite a ways was the 1997/1998 USA-spec twin-turbo, which is what I refer to when I speak of Supras. Even the Japanese often ordered Toyota USA parts to convert their Supras to these models. If you are going to compare the MKIV Supra to a Skyline, you need to compare it to the R33, not the R34. The Supra went out of American production in 1998, while the R34 entered production in 1999. The Supra lapped the Nurburgring in 7:39; the R33 GT-R in 7:56. In an attempt to eclipse Toyota’s past model, Nissan released the R34, which still only acheived 7:41. I’m not saying that the Skyline isn’t a great car, because it is; it’s just that unless you’re racing in the rain, it can’t compete with the Supra.

You don’t have to lease the LFA - you can buy it flat out if you want to, but leasing is an option. Oh, and did that magazine article happen to be a Nissan advertisement?


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Naterade22

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



Obviously, we will never agree with this subject so let’s just stop being like youtube bloggers. You’re a Toyota guy, and I respect that. I’m a Nissan guy, and to me, the GT-R is the flagship and icon of the Japanese sport car industry. To you its the Supra. Plenty of facts will back up the Skyline, and sure nothing will beat Toyota’s reliability, but the GT-R is in no way at all a Supra- wannabe
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Naterade22

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



In the U.S. the baddest car you could buy and then modify was a Toyota Supra, there are even models that can race against a Suzuki Hyabusa and win at 150 MPH, in Japan they said that when you got over your Supra you bought a GT-R. Right from the article. 1999 Nissan GT-R R34 would kill a 99 Supra Turbo any day, in every aspect. Nissan has always produced and will always produce the best line of cars out there, suiting every person’s wants and needs. LF-A i dont even take into the picture. I still consider is a concept car based on the amount they produced and the price tag, not even allowing purchases right away, having to lease the car for 2 years. I still will take a R34 over a Supra, and an R35 over an LF-A. And I’m sure there are many more people on this site that would agree.
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mitchell123

Posted on 11.26.2009

Ferrari F70 coming in 2012



hello friends this is very nice car for jouney.. =========== M itchell
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Uncia

Posted on 11.26.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



The MKIV Supra was the first car to average over 70 mph through Road & Track’s slalom, the first car to pull 0.98g at the skidpad, the first car to lap the Nurburgring in under 7:40, the first car to stop from 60 mph in less than 110 feet, the first 4-seater to hit 60 in less than 5 seconds, and has received the highest consumer reliability rating of any turbocharged vehicle in history, to name a few accomplishments. No other car ever built has set as many records as the twin-turbo Supra did, let alone the fact that it cost a fraction of the price of its Italian and German "competitors."

Sure, the new Nissan GT-R is faster than the Supra almost any way you look at it, but it’s double the cost and has over a decade’s worth of new technology. You need to judge automobiles in respect to the time period in which they were produced. Is the GT-R the fastest slalom car in the world? No, but the Supra was. Can the GT-R beat everything else on the road on a skidpad? No, but the Supra did. Is the GT-R the fastest modern-day Nurburgring car? No, that’s what the LFA is for, but the Supra was. Can the GT-R, what with all its carbon-ceramic brakes and stuff even equal the 16 year-old Supra’s stopping times? No. And last time I checked, the Supra’s transmission didn’t and doesn’t tear itself apart after being raced a few times.

Come to think of it, has any Nissan in history ever come close to the reliability reviews of a comparably priced Toyota? No.


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Naterade22

Posted on 11.25.2009

Nissan Skyline GT-Rs at the 2009 SEMA Show



Umm... sorry toyota lover, but Skylines are far from Supra wannabees. Skylines have ruled the japanese sport car business of the past and of the present for tuners. I’ll take a GTR over a supra any day. I’ve got nothing against supra’s and they’re fast, you just seem to jump the gun to bash Nissan any time you can in any post. GTR>Supra
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